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P\u00ebrkthim | Genc Shehu | 16.03.2021| nyje.al<\/strong><\/span><\/p>

Pjesa e III-t\u00eb
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LDD<\/em>: N\u00eb \u00e7far\u00eb rrethanash e gjeni veten t\u00eb p\u00ebrdorni nj\u00ebr\u00ebn metafor\u00eb a tjetr\u00ebn \u2013 fush\u00ebn analitike dhe t\u00eb tretin analitik?<\/span><\/p>

THO<\/em>: Kjo \u00ebsht\u00eb pyetje e v\u00ebshtir\u00eb. M\u00eb lini t\u00eb mendoj pak p\u00ebr t\u00eb sepse un\u00eb luhatem nga nj\u00ebra te tjetra n\u00eb nj\u00eb m\u00ebnyr\u00eb q\u00eb ndihet e natyrshme, por nuk kam vija t\u00eb rrepta ndar\u00ebse midis tyre.
<\/span>Dy konceptet rrin\u00eb m\u00eb s\u00eb shumti cip\u00eb mbi cip\u00eb. Kjo \u00ebsht\u00eb thjesht p\u00ebrshtypje, por mendoj se un\u00eb kam prirjen t\u00eb p\u00ebrdor konceptin e fush\u00ebs analitike kur mendoj p\u00ebr nj\u00eb situat\u00eb analitike ku vet\u00eb korniza dhe tipet e trysnive q\u00eb po ushtrohen pavet\u00ebdijsh\u00ebm mbi analistin n\u00eb raport me korniz\u00ebn jan\u00eb n\u00eb loj\u00eb.<\/span><\/p>

Un\u00eb mendoj se p\u00ebrdor koceptin e t\u00eb tretit analitik kur mendoj rreth fanitjeve ose \u00ebndrritjeve me sy hapur dhe m\u00ebnyrave sesi [k\u00ebto] jan\u00eb shprehje t\u00eb mendimeve dhe ndjenjave q\u00eb nuk jan\u00eb krijuar ekskluzivisht as nga analisti as nga i analizuari. N\u00eb m\u00ebnyr\u00eb t\u00eb ngjashme i mendoj edhe \u00ebnd\u00ebrrat e pacientit \u2013 ato nuk duhen marr\u00eb medoemos si krijime t\u00eb pacientit. Por nuk do t\u00eb doja q\u00eb k\u00ebto p\u00ebrshtypje t\u00eb para t\u00eb merren si pohim i kontekstit \u201ct\u00eb p\u00ebrpikt\u00eb\u201d ku k\u00ebto dy metafora duhen zbatuar. \u00c7do person do t\u00eb p\u00ebrdor\u00eb metaforat e t\u00eb tretit analitik dhe t\u00eb fush\u00ebs analitike n\u00eb m\u00ebnyra q\u00eb funksionojn\u00eb m\u00eb s\u00eb miri p\u00ebr orvatjet e tyre p\u00ebr t\u00eb menduar rreth asaj q\u00eb po ndodh n\u00eb nj\u00eb \u00e7ast t\u00eb dh\u00ebn\u00eb n\u00eb nj\u00eb p\u00ebrvoj\u00eb analitike. Dhe nuk do kaloj\u00eb shum\u00eb koh\u00eb kur t\u00eb dyja metaforat do t\u00eb jen\u00eb b\u00ebr\u00eb bajat dhe t\u00eb tjera do t\u00eb duhet t\u00eb shpiken.<\/span><\/p>

LDD<\/em>: Ju dhe biri juaj, Benjamini, keni shkruar nj\u00eb lib\u00ebr bashk\u00eb mbi psikoanaliz\u00ebn dhe kritik\u00ebn letrare \u2013 Veshi i analistit dhe syri i kritikut: Duke rimenduar psikoanaliz\u00ebn dhe kritik\u00ebn letrare<\/em>\u00a0[The analyst\u2019s ear and the critic\u2019s eye: Rethinking psychoanalysis and literary criticism<\/em>]. A mund t\u00eb m\u00eb tregoni pak rreth p\u00ebrvoj\u00ebs suaj t\u00eb shkrimit t\u00eb k\u00ebtij libri me birin tuaj?<\/span><\/p>

THO<\/em>: Shkrimi i atij libri me Benin ishte nj\u00eb prej p\u00ebrvojave m\u00eb p\u00ebrmbush\u00ebse dhe t\u00eb g\u00ebzueshme t\u00eb jet\u00ebs time. \u00cbsht\u00eb gj\u00eb e jasht\u00ebzakoshme t\u00eb punosh n\u00eb nj\u00eb projekt t\u00eb k\u00ebtij tipi me f\u00ebmij\u00ebn t\u00ebnd q\u00eb nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb m\u00eb f\u00ebmij\u00eb, por nj\u00eb studiues i arrir\u00eb letrar. Njer\u00ebzit m\u00eb pyesin n\u00ebse kishte shum\u00eb konkurrenc\u00eb dhe armiq\u00ebsi n\u00eb shkrimin e librit ton\u00eb bashk\u00eb. \u00c7do her\u00eb, un\u00eb habitem nga pyetja sepse nuk kishte fare armiq\u00ebsi nga asnj\u00ebra an\u00eb. Bashkautor\u00ebsia e librit qe medium i mrekulluesh\u00ebm q\u00eb t\u00eb njiheshim me nj\u00ebri-tjetrin si t\u00eb rritur.<\/span><\/p>

Pjes\u00eb e g\u00ebzimit t\u00eb k\u00ebsaj p\u00ebrvoje ishte q\u00eb munda t\u00eb m\u00ebsoj goxha shum\u00eb prej Benit. Un\u00eb u befasova shum\u00eb nga aft\u00ebsia e Benit p\u00ebr t\u00eb b\u00ebr\u00eb vrojtime shum\u00eb t\u00eb holla rreth supozimeve q\u00eb un\u00eb vazhdimisht b\u00ebja pa qen\u00eb i vet\u00ebdijsh\u00ebm p\u00ebr to n\u00eb kritik\u00ebn letrare q\u00eb kisha shkruar. P\u00ebr shembull, ai m\u00eb vuri n\u00eb pah se prirem t\u00eb privilegjoj z\u00ebrin karshi aspektesh t\u00eb tjera t\u00eb p\u00ebrdorimit q\u00eb autori i b\u00ebn gjuh\u00ebs, pa justifikuar pse besoj q\u00eb z\u00ebri, n\u00eb nj\u00eb pasazh t\u00eb caktuar, \u00ebsht\u00eb aspekti m\u00eb me r\u00ebnd\u00ebsi i p\u00ebrdorimit t\u00eb gjuh\u00ebs n\u00eb at\u00eb pasazh sesa sintaksa, p\u00ebr shembull, ose zhanri letrar q\u00eb aludohet. Ai vuri n\u00eb pah po ashtu se un\u00eb e marr p\u00ebr t\u00eb mir\u00ebqen\u00eb se n\u00ebse nj\u00eb poem\u00eb apo roman evokon nj\u00eb gjende t\u00eb caktuar ndjenje, autori duhet ta ket\u00eb p\u00ebrjetuar dikur \u2013 ndofta vet\u00ebm kur e shkroi at\u00eb pjes\u00eb \u2013 k\u00ebt\u00eb grup ndjenjash. Kur ai m\u00eb b\u00ebri k\u00ebt\u00eb v\u00ebrejtje, un\u00eb thash, \u201cPersonazhet jan\u00eb trillime, k\u00ebshtuq\u00eb nuk mund t\u00eb ndjenj\u00eb gj\u00eb. Kush tjet\u00ebr pos autorit mund t\u00eb jet\u00eb duke ndjer\u00eb ndjenjat q\u00eb zgjohen nga tregimi?\u201d Ai pyeti, \u201cP\u00ebrse nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb e mundur q\u00eb nj\u00eb autor t\u00eb jet\u00eb mjaftuesh\u00ebm i zoti n\u00eb p\u00ebrdorimin e gjuh\u00ebs sa t\u00eb krijoj\u00eb \u00e7far\u00ebdo gjendje ndjesore n\u00eb nj\u00eb tekst?\u201d Un\u00eb thash\u00eb se nuk m\u00eb kishte vajtur nd\u00ebrmend q\u00eb autori mundet bindsh\u00ebm t\u00eb shkruaj\u00eb n\u00eb nj\u00eb m\u00ebnyr\u00eb q\u00eb zgjon nj\u00eb tog ndjenjash q\u00eb nuk i ka p\u00ebrjetuar kurr\u00eb.<\/span><\/p>

Beni tha se ky ishte nj\u00eb besim nga ana ime dhe ai nuk do t\u00eb p\u00ebrpiqej t\u00eb ma nd\u00ebrronte mendjen duke argumentuar, por q\u00eb sidoqofot\u00eb ishte nj\u00eb supozim p\u00ebr t\u00eb cilin duhet t\u00eb isha i vet\u00ebdijsh\u00ebm. Ai shtoi se edhe ai kishte po ato dyshime si un\u00eb, por \u00ebsht\u00eb interesante ta mbash pyetjen n\u00eb cep t\u00eb mendjes teksa lexon apo shkruan kritik\u00eb letrare.<\/span><\/p>

LDD<\/em>: Si e strukturuat librin n\u00eb aspektin e dy k\u00ebndv\u00ebshtrimeve tuaja? A u fut\u00ebt n\u00eb bashk\u00ebbisedim?<\/span><\/p>

THO<\/em>: Jo, ne vendos\u00ebm t\u00eb mos e strukturojm\u00eb librin si bised\u00eb midis nj\u00eb psikoanalisti dhe nj\u00eb kritiku letrar. Ne p\u00ebrdor\u00ebm \u201cne\u201d-n\u00eb rr\u00ebfenj\u00ebse p\u00ebr t\u2019i folur lexuesit. \u201cNe\u201d-ja ndryshon gjat\u00eb rrjedh\u00ebs s\u00eb librit teksa ne, t\u00eb dy, m\u00ebsuam prej nj\u00ebri-tjetrit dhe u aft\u00ebsuam t\u00eb kuptojm\u00eb n\u00eb m\u00ebnyr\u00eb m\u00eb komplekse marr\u00ebdh\u00ebnien midis psikoanaliz\u00ebs dhe kritik\u00ebs letrare.<\/span><\/p>

LDD<\/em>: E pres me padurim ta lexoj librin. N\u00eb dy librat tuaj t\u00eb fundit, This art of psychoanalysis<\/em>\u00a0dhe Rediscovering psychoanalysis<\/em>, vura re nj\u00eb ndryshim t\u00eb q\u00ebndrimit tuaj teorik. Duket sikur ju po l\u00ebvizni tutje prej nj\u00eb gjuhe shpjeguese drejt nj\u00eb gjuhe m\u00eb afektive n\u00eb m\u00ebnyr\u00eb q\u00eb t\u00eb mb\u00ebrrij\u00eb pacientin.<\/span><\/p>

THO<\/em>: Ky \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb vrojtim shum\u00eb perceptues. Nuk do t\u00eb m\u00eb kishte vajtur mendja ta shtroja ashtu, por mendoj se \u00ebsht\u00eb e v\u00ebrtet\u00eb. Si\u00e7 thash\u00eb m\u00eb her\u00ebt, e mendoj gjithnj\u00eb e m\u00eb shum\u00eb dialogun analitik si bised\u00eb t\u00eb nj\u00eb tipi q\u00eb nuk ndodh n\u00eb asnj\u00eb rrethan\u00eb tjet\u00ebr. Nuk e shoh struktur\u00ebn e dialogut midis pacientit dhe analisitit si dialog n\u00eb t\u00eb cilin analisti d\u00ebgjon dhe pastaj, pasi ka mbledhur mendimet dhe mb\u00ebrrin n\u00eb nj\u00eb t\u00eb kuptuar t\u00eb dometh\u00ebnieve t\u00eb pavet\u00ebdijshmeve t\u00eb komunikimeve t\u00eb pacientit, jep nj\u00eb interpretim. N\u00eb vend t\u00eb k\u00ebsaj, e shoh \u00e7iftin analitik sikur \u00ebnd\u00ebrrojn\u00eb bashk\u00eb. Secili ka shansin t\u00eb thot\u00eb se \u00e7\u2019beson se \u00ebsht\u00eb e v\u00ebrtet\u00eb dhe e p\u00ebrdorshme nga tjetri, brenda kushtit t\u00eb marr\u00ebdh\u00ebnies s\u00eb tyre si doktor dhe pacient. Kjo e fundit \u00ebsht\u00eb thelb\u00ebsore: analisti, nd\u00ebrkoh\u00eb q\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb i barabart\u00eb me pacientin, ka nj\u00eb rol dhe p\u00ebrgjegj\u00ebsi vendimtarisht ndryshe prej atij t\u00eb pacientit. Do t\u2019i kthehem k\u00ebsaj p\u00ebr pak. H\u00ebp\u00ebrh\u00eb, m\u00eb lini t\u00eb vazhdoj me nj\u00eb p\u00ebrgjigje p\u00ebr pyetjen tuaj. Nuk e shoh rolin tim si ai q\u00eb i jep pacientit nj\u00eb tur me ciceron t\u00eb mendjes s\u00eb pavet\u00ebdijshme t\u00eb tij. Nuk ka asgj\u00eb shnd\u00ebrruese apo q\u00eb nxit rritjen nga p\u00ebrftimi i nj\u00eb diturie m\u00eb t\u00eb madhe rreth<\/em>\u00a0vetes. Ajo \u00e7ka \u00ebsht\u00eb shnd\u00ebrruese, besoj, \u00ebsht\u00eb p\u00ebrvoja e<\/em>\u00a0vetes n\u00eb kontekstin e t\u00eb qenurit me<\/em>\u00a0nj\u00eb person tjet\u00ebr i cili t\u00eb njeh q\u00eb je personi q\u00eb je dhe personi q\u00eb je n\u00eb proces duke u b\u00ebr\u00eb. P\u00ebrvoja analitike e t\u00eb qenurit me<\/em>\u00a0nj\u00eb person tjet\u00ebr \u00ebsht\u00eb unike n\u00eb at\u00eb se marr\u00ebdh\u00ebnia analitike, me vendosjen e \u00e7uditshme t\u00eb pacientit n\u00eb divan dhe t\u00eb analistit jasht\u00eb shikimit pas pacientit, promovon nj\u00eb marr\u00ebdh\u00ebnie n\u00eb t\u00eb cil\u00ebn t\u00eb \u00ebnd\u00ebrruarit bashk\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb medium kryesor i komunikimit t\u00eb pavet\u00ebdijsh\u00ebm si dhe burim kryesor mendimesh dhe ndjenjash rreth t\u00eb cilave<\/em>\u00a0pacienti dhe analisti flasin me nj\u00ebri-tjetrin dhe prej t\u00eb cilave<\/em>\u00a0analisiti i flet pacientit.<\/span><\/p>

Teksa flas rreth k\u00ebtyre ideve si gjeneralitete p\u00ebr m\u00ebnyr\u00ebn se si punoj tanim\u00eb me pacient\u00ebt, shpresoj q\u00eb kjo t\u00eb mos l\u00ebr\u00eb p\u00ebrshtypjen se ka nj\u00ebjt\u00ebsi rreth p\u00ebrvoj\u00ebs q\u00eb kam me pacient\u00ebt e mi. E thash\u00eb m\u00eb her\u00ebt, por nuk mund ta theksoj mjaftuesh\u00ebm fort se p\u00ebrvoja n\u00eb analiz\u00eb me \u00e7donj\u00ebrin pacient \u00ebsht\u00eb e posa\u00e7me dhe unike p\u00ebr t\u00eb. \u00cbsht\u00eb thelb\u00ebsore q\u00eb pacienti dhe un\u00eb t\u00eb \u00ebnd\u00ebrrisim nj\u00eb p\u00ebrvoj\u00eb analitike q\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb unike p\u00ebr pacientin dhe mua. Po ashtu thelb\u00ebsore \u00ebsht\u00eb q\u00eb un\u00eb t\u00eb rizbuloj psikoanaliz\u00ebn me \u00e7do pacient. M\u00eb vjen n\u00eb mend nj\u00eb pacient me t\u00eb cilin diskutimi p\u00ebr marr\u00ebdh\u00ebnien ton\u00eb, pra, p\u00ebr transferenc\u00ebn, qe vendimtar p\u00ebr rritjen psikologjike (t\u00eb pacientit dhe timen).<\/span><\/p>

Me nj\u00eb tjet\u00ebr pacient, vendosa t\u00eb mos e bisedojm\u00eb marr\u00ebdh\u00ebnien p\u00ebr shum\u00eb vjet, edhe pse mendohesha p\u00ebr k\u00ebt\u00eb goxha n\u00eb \u00e7do seanc\u00eb. Nuk do t\u00eb thoja se transferenca ishte m\u00eb e r\u00ebnd\u00ebsishme n\u00eb analiz\u00ebn e pacientit t\u00eb par\u00eb sa n\u00eb analiz\u00ebn e t\u00eb dytit. N\u00eb vend t\u00eb k\u00ebsaj, un\u00eb do t\u00eb thoja se biseda eksplicite e transferenc\u00ebs ishte m\u00eb e r\u00ebnd\u00ebsishme n\u00eb analiz\u00ebn e par\u00eb sesa n\u00eb t\u00eb dyt\u00ebn, n\u00eb ato vite t\u00eb analiz\u00ebs.<\/span><\/p>

Le t\u00eb kthehem te mendimi q\u00eb vura m\u00ebnjan\u00eb ca minuta m\u00eb par\u00eb, q\u00eb kishte t\u00eb b\u00ebnte me p\u00ebrgjegj\u00ebsin\u00eb e analistit si doktor ndaj pacientit. Un\u00eb zmbrapsem kur d\u00ebgjoj analist\u00eb t\u00eb flasin apo t\u00eb shkruajn\u00eb rreth p\u00ebrgjegj\u00ebsis\u00eb s\u00eb tyre ndaj psikoanaliz\u00ebs dhe nevoj\u00ebs p\u00ebr t\u2019iu p\u00ebrmbajtur k\u00ebsaj p\u00ebrgjegj\u00ebsie ngase kjo \u00ebsht\u00eb gj\u00ebja m\u00eb e mir\u00eb q\u00eb kemi p\u00ebr t\u2019iu ofruar pacient\u00ebve tan\u00eb. Po ashtu zmbrapsem prej ides\u00eb q\u00eb analisti duhet t\u00eb mos shqet\u00ebsohet me rezultatin e analiz\u00ebs, meqen\u00ebse ndryshimi \u00ebsht\u00eb n\u00eb duart e pacientit dhe jasht\u00eb duarve t\u00eb analistit. Un\u00eb besoj t\u00eb kund\u00ebrt\u00ebn. E ndjej fuqimisht se p\u00ebrgjegj\u00ebsia ime nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb ndaj psikoanaliz\u00ebs, por ndaj pacientit. P\u00ebrgjegj\u00ebsia ime \u00ebsht\u00eb t\u2019i ofroj pacientit trajtimin m\u00eb t\u00eb mir\u00eb q\u00eb mundem p\u00ebr problemet e posa\u00e7me psikologjike dhe fizike t\u00eb tij. P\u00ebr ta th\u00ebn\u00eb m\u00eb fort, p\u00ebrgjegj\u00ebsia ime e vetme \u00ebsht\u00eb ndaj pacientit dhe ndaj t\u00eb tjer\u00ebve n\u00eb jet\u00ebn e tij, n\u00ebse trajtohen \u00e7njer\u00ebzish\u00ebm prej tij. Un\u00eb jam doktori i pacientit n\u00eb kuptimin m\u00eb t\u00eb gjer\u00eb t\u00eb fjal\u00ebs doktor<\/em>, jo vet\u00ebm n\u00eb kuptimin e saj mjek\u00ebsor por si\u00e7 e diskutuam m\u00eb her\u00ebt. N\u00ebqoft\u00ebse pacienti \u00ebsht\u00eb i aft\u00eb t\u00eb p\u00ebrdor\u00eb psikoanaliz\u00ebn, un\u00eb p\u00ebrpiqem t\u00eb shpik nj\u00eb form\u00eb t\u00eb saj q\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb optimale p\u00ebr t\u00eb. N\u00ebse pacienti po vuan nga nj\u00eb s\u00ebmundje, si var\u00ebsia ndaj alkoolit apo drog\u00ebs, un\u00eb e referoj at\u00eb n\u00eb nj\u00eb program trajtimi q\u00eb ofron ndihm\u00eb p\u00ebr pacient\u00eb t\u00eb k\u00ebtill\u00eb \u2013 psikoanaliza ka nj\u00eb histori performance me nam jo t\u00eb mir\u00eb n\u00eb trajtimin e pacient\u00ebve me var\u00ebsi droge.<\/span><\/p>

Teksa them k\u00ebt\u00eb, m\u00eb vjen nd\u00ebrmend nj\u00eb analist q\u00eb k\u00ebshillohet me mua p\u00ebr pun\u00ebn e tij klinike. Ai pati rishtazi nj\u00eb pacient q\u00eb u plandos n\u00eb dhom\u00ebn e tij t\u00eb k\u00ebshillimit. Pacienti kishte pasur episode t\u00eb ngjashme n\u00eb t\u00eb shkuar\u00ebn e af\u00ebrt, por nuk kishte b\u00ebr\u00eb gj\u00eb p\u00ebr to. Analisti, i cili pat qen\u00eb doktor i mjek\u00ebsis\u00eb s\u00eb brendshme n\u00eb karrier\u00ebn e tij t\u00eb hershme, vendosi ta vozis\u00eb pacientin te sht\u00ebpia e t\u00eb motr\u00ebs s\u00eb pacientit, aty af\u00ebr. Ajo pastaj e \u00e7oi pacientin n\u00eb spital, ku u krye nj\u00eb shqyrtim i im\u00ebt mjek\u00ebsor. Un\u00eb besoj se kjo ishte gj\u00ebja m\u00eb terapeutike q\u00eb mund t\u00eb b\u00ebnte analisti p\u00ebr pacientin. Nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb recet\u00eb p\u00ebr asnj\u00eb \u00e7ift tjet\u00ebr analitik. Ajo situat\u00eb nuk mund t\u00eb ndodh\u00eb midis asnj\u00eb pacienti dhe analisiti tjet\u00ebr. Ajo q\u00eb marr prej shembullit \u00ebsht\u00eb liria e analistit p\u00ebr t\u00eb tentuar t\u00eb jet\u00eb doktori q\u00eb pacienti kishte nevoj\u00eb n\u00eb ato rrethana. Besoj se t\u00eb jesh doktori m\u00eb i mir\u00eb q\u00eb mundesh p\u00ebr pacientin t\u00ebnd \u00ebsht\u00eb t\u00eb jesh po ashtu analisti m\u00eb i mir\u00eb q\u00eb mundesh p\u00ebr k\u00ebt\u00eb pacient. Analisti nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb person q\u00eb praktikon psikoanaliz\u00ebn; analisti \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb person q\u00eb sjell nj\u00eb ndjeshm\u00ebri, trajnim dhe p\u00ebrvoj\u00eb analitike n\u00eb pun\u00ebn e tij me pacient\u00ebt e vet.<\/span><\/p>

LDD<\/em>: Tom, \u00e7far\u00eb mendoni p\u00ebr \u00e7\u00ebshtjen e traum\u00ebs n\u00eb p\u00ebrgjith\u00ebsi dhe sidomos p\u00ebr traum\u00ebn e transmetuar brez pas brezi? Kjo e dyta gjendet gjithandej por ka rr\u00ebnj\u00eb t\u00eb thella n\u00eb Afrik\u00ebn e Jugut, Ballkan, jugun amerikan, Irland\u00ebn e Veriut dhe n\u00eb zona t\u00eb pllakosura nga holokausti.<\/span><\/p>

THO<\/em>: Luca, un\u00eb e mendoj traum\u00ebn si p\u00ebrvoj\u00eb t\u00eb pamendueshme. Trauma \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb ngjarje q\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb tep\u00ebr \u2013 tep\u00ebr trazuese, tep\u00ebr e padurueshme p\u00ebr individin q\u00eb ta mendoj\u00eb dhe ndjej\u00eb. \u00a0Nuk ka \u00ebnd\u00ebrrim t\u00eb mir\u00ebfillt\u00eb, pun\u00eb t\u00eb pavet\u00ebdijshme psikologjike pra, q\u00eb mund t\u00eb b\u00ebhet me [k\u00ebt\u00eb] p\u00ebrvoj\u00ebn. Rezultati i k\u00ebtyre p\u00ebrvojave q\u00eb nuk mund t\u00eb \u00ebnd\u00ebrrohen, k\u00ebto \u201c\u00ebndrra t\u00eb pa\u00ebnd\u00ebrruara\u201d, p\u00ebrfshin s\u00ebmundje fizike, makthe p\u00ebrs\u00ebrit\u00ebse dhe pa ndryshim, tmerre nate dhe mbyllje autike.<\/span><\/p>

Traumat lypin t\u00eb pakt\u00ebn dy njer\u00ebz p\u00ebr t\u00eb menduar dhe ndjer\u00eb ngjarjen. Un\u00eb mendoj se disa trauma mund t\u00eb p\u00ebrpunohen vet\u00ebm n\u00eb kushte grupi. Si individ, njeriu pashmangsh\u00ebm mb\u00ebrrin limitet e aft\u00ebsive q\u00eb ka vet\u00eb sistemi i personalitetit t\u00eb tij p\u00ebr t\u00eb menduar\/\u00ebnd\u00ebrruar dhe pik\u00ebrisht n\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb pik\u00eb, n\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb limit, zhvillon simptoma q\u00eb sh\u00ebnojn\u00eb vendin ku mendimet e tij b\u00ebhen t\u00eb pamendueshme\/pa\u00ebnd\u00ebrrueshme dhe nuk mund t\u00eb shkojn\u00eb m\u00eb tutje. N\u00ebse dikush ka aq fat sa t\u00eb mos jet\u00eb vet\u00ebm me p\u00ebrvojat traumatike (t\u00eb cilat jan\u00eb gjithnj\u00eb gjall\u00eb n\u00eb t\u00eb tashmen), ai ndoshta gjen ndihm\u00eb nga dikush apo disa t\u00eb tjer\u00eb p\u00ebr t\u00eb menduar\/\u00ebnd\u00ebrruar p\u00ebrvoj\u00ebn q\u00eb m\u00eb par\u00eb ishte e pamendueshme. Dikush q\u00eb ka aq fat sa t\u00eb mos jet\u00eb vet\u00ebm me traum\u00ebn e vet, merret me dik\u00eb apo disa t\u00eb tjer\u00eb p\u00ebr ta ndihmuar at\u00eb q\u00eb ai t\u00eb mendoj\u00eb\/ndjej\u00eb \u00e7far\u00eb nuk mund p\u00ebrjetohet dot vet\u00ebm. Tjetri apo t\u00eb tjer\u00ebt mund t\u00eb jet\u00eb nj\u00eb bashk\u00ebshort, nj\u00eb mik, nj\u00eb v\u00eblla a mot\u00ebr, ose nj\u00eb analist. \u00c7far\u00eb l\u00ebvron te mendimi i pamenduesh\u00ebm \u00ebsht\u00eb m\u00eb e madhe edhe se shuma e sistemeve individuale t\u00eb personaliteteve. Dy apo m\u00eb shum\u00eb vet\u00eb krijojn\u00eb nj\u00eb subjekt t\u00eb pavet\u00ebdijsh\u00ebm t\u00eb tret\u00eb q\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb i aft\u00eb t\u00eb mendoj\u00eb \u00e7ka askush prej njer\u00ebzve vet\u00ebm nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb i aft\u00eb t\u00eb mendoj\u00eb dhe t\u00eb p\u00ebrthith\u00eb n\u00eb nj\u00eb m\u00ebnyr\u00eb transformuese.<\/span><\/p>

Shpesh, dy njer\u00ebz, ose dhjet\u00eb, nuk mjaftojn\u00eb p\u00ebr t\u00eb menduar mendimin e pamenduesh\u00ebm sepse t\u00eb gjith\u00eb ata q\u00eb p\u00ebrfshihen n\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb orvatje p\u00ebr t\u00eb menduar vuajn\u00eb nga tramua t\u00eb ngjashme. Ky grup njer\u00ebzish mund t\u00eb p\u00ebrb\u00ebj\u00eb nj\u00eb brez t\u00eb t\u00ebr\u00eb populli \u2013 p\u00ebr shembull, nj\u00eb brez (ose dy a tre) afrikano-jugor\u00ebsh (edhe t\u00eb zinj edhe t\u00eb bardh\u00eb) t\u00eb cil\u00ebt jetuan p\u00ebrvoj\u00ebn e aparteidit, apo gjeneratat e popullit irlandezo-verior\u00eb (edhe katolik\u00eb edhe protestant\u00eb) gjat\u00eb \u201ctelasheve\u201d. P\u00ebrmasa e st\u00ebrmadhe e n\u00ebnvler\u00ebsimit n\u00eb termin \u201ctelashet\u201d \u00ebsht\u00eb, besoj, pasqyrim i shkall\u00ebs n\u00eb t\u00eb cil\u00ebn vrasjet, masakrat dhe terrorizimi nuk mund t\u00eb mendohet, e aq m\u00eb pak t\u00eb flitet.<\/span><\/p>

Ndodh ndonj\u00ebher\u00eb q\u00eb dikush nga brenda brezave t\u00eb traumatizuar \u2013 p\u00ebr shembull, Nelson Mandela ose Desmond Tutu \u2013 mund t\u00eb jet\u00eb i aft\u00eb t\u00eb ndihmoj\u00eb nj\u00eb komb t\u00eb t\u00ebr\u00eb njer\u00ebzish t\u00eb mendoj\u00eb dikur t\u00eb pamendueshmen. E nj\u00ebjta gj\u00eb mund t\u00eb thuhet p\u00ebr Gandin. Mendoj se Martin Luther Kingu luajti k\u00ebt\u00eb funksion n\u00eb lidhje me traum\u00ebn breznore t\u00eb skllav\u00ebris\u00eb n\u00eb ShBA. Nuk kam asnj\u00eb iluzion q\u00eb dy apo tre individ\u00eb mund t\u00eb shnd\u00ebrrojn\u00eb t\u00eb pamendueshmen e nj\u00eb kombi n\u00eb t\u00eb mendueshme, t\u00eb \u00ebnd\u00ebrrueshme dhe t\u00eb folshme, por un\u00eb v\u00ebrtet besoj se ata mund t\u00eb b\u00ebjn\u00eb dallim.<\/span><\/p>

LDD<\/em>: Do t\u00eb doja t\u2019ju falenderoja p\u00ebr koh\u00ebn dhe konsiderat\u00ebn tuaj.<\/span><\/p>

THO<\/em>: Qe k\u00ebnaq\u00ebsi e madhe t\u00eb flisja me ju rreth k\u00ebtyre temave q\u00eb jan\u00eb tejet t\u00eb r\u00ebnd\u00ebsishme p\u00ebr ne t\u00eb dy.<\/span><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

P\u00ebrkthim | Genc Shehu | 16.03.2021| nyje.al Pjesa e III-t\u00eb LDD: N\u00eb \u00e7far\u00eb rrethanash e gjeni veten t\u00eb p\u00ebrdorni nj\u00ebr\u00ebn metafor\u00eb a tjetr\u00ebn \u2013 fush\u00ebn analitike dhe t\u00eb tretin analitik? THO: Kjo \u00ebsht\u00eb pyetje e v\u00ebshtir\u00eb. M\u00eb lini t\u00eb mendoj pak p\u00ebr t\u00eb sepse un\u00eb luhatem nga nj\u00ebra te tjetra n\u00eb nj\u00eb m\u00ebnyr\u00eb q\u00eb ndihet e natyrshme, por nuk kam vija t\u00eb rrepta ndar\u00ebse midis tyre.Dy konceptet rrin\u00eb m\u00eb s\u00eb shumti cip\u00eb mbi cip\u00eb. Kjo \u00ebsht\u00eb thjesht p\u00ebrshtypje, por mendoj se un\u00eb kam prirjen t\u00eb p\u00ebrdor konceptin e fush\u00ebs analitike kur mendoj p\u00ebr nj\u00eb situat\u00eb analitike ku vet\u00eb korniza dhe tipet e trysnive q\u00eb po ushtrohen pavet\u00ebdijsh\u00ebm mbi analistin n\u00eb raport me korniz\u00ebn jan\u00eb n\u00eb loj\u00eb. Un\u00eb mendoj se p\u00ebrdor koceptin e t\u00eb tretit analitik kur mendoj rreth fanitjeve ose \u00ebndrritjeve me sy hapur dhe m\u00ebnyrave sesi [k\u00ebto] jan\u00eb shprehje t\u00eb mendimeve dhe ndjenjave q\u00eb nuk jan\u00eb krijuar ekskluzivisht as nga analisti as nga i analizuari. N\u00eb m\u00ebnyr\u00eb t\u00eb ngjashme i mendoj edhe \u00ebnd\u00ebrrat e pacientit \u2013 ato nuk duhen marr\u00eb medoemos si krijime t\u00eb pacientit. Por nuk do t\u00eb doja q\u00eb k\u00ebto p\u00ebrshtypje t\u00eb para t\u00eb merren si pohim i kontekstit \u201ct\u00eb p\u00ebrpikt\u00eb\u201d ku k\u00ebto dy metafora duhen zbatuar. \u00c7do person do t\u00eb p\u00ebrdor\u00eb metaforat e t\u00eb tretit analitik dhe t\u00eb fush\u00ebs analitike n\u00eb m\u00ebnyra q\u00eb funksionojn\u00eb m\u00eb s\u00eb miri p\u00ebr orvatjet e tyre p\u00ebr t\u00eb menduar rreth asaj q\u00eb po ndodh n\u00eb nj\u00eb \u00e7ast t\u00eb dh\u00ebn\u00eb n\u00eb nj\u00eb p\u00ebrvoj\u00eb analitike. Dhe nuk do kaloj\u00eb shum\u00eb koh\u00eb kur t\u00eb dyja metaforat do t\u00eb jen\u00eb b\u00ebr\u00eb bajat dhe t\u00eb tjera do t\u00eb duhet t\u00eb shpiken. LDD: Ju dhe biri juaj, Benjamini, keni shkruar nj\u00eb lib\u00ebr bashk\u00eb mbi psikoanaliz\u00ebn dhe kritik\u00ebn letrare \u2013 Veshi i analistit dhe syri i kritikut: Duke rimenduar psikoanaliz\u00ebn dhe kritik\u00ebn letrare\u00a0[The analyst\u2019s ear and the critic\u2019s eye: Rethinking psychoanalysis and literary criticism]. A mund t\u00eb m\u00eb tregoni pak rreth p\u00ebrvoj\u00ebs suaj t\u00eb shkrimit t\u00eb k\u00ebtij libri me birin tuaj? THO: Shkrimi i atij libri me Benin ishte nj\u00eb prej p\u00ebrvojave m\u00eb p\u00ebrmbush\u00ebse dhe t\u00eb g\u00ebzueshme t\u00eb jet\u00ebs time. \u00cbsht\u00eb gj\u00eb e jasht\u00ebzakoshme t\u00eb punosh n\u00eb nj\u00eb projekt t\u00eb k\u00ebtij tipi me f\u00ebmij\u00ebn t\u00ebnd q\u00eb nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb m\u00eb f\u00ebmij\u00eb, por nj\u00eb studiues i arrir\u00eb letrar. Njer\u00ebzit m\u00eb pyesin n\u00ebse kishte shum\u00eb konkurrenc\u00eb dhe armiq\u00ebsi n\u00eb shkrimin e librit ton\u00eb bashk\u00eb. \u00c7do her\u00eb, un\u00eb habitem nga pyetja sepse nuk kishte fare armiq\u00ebsi nga asnj\u00ebra an\u00eb. Bashkautor\u00ebsia e librit qe medium i mrekulluesh\u00ebm q\u00eb t\u00eb njiheshim me nj\u00ebri-tjetrin si t\u00eb rritur. Pjes\u00eb e g\u00ebzimit t\u00eb k\u00ebsaj p\u00ebrvoje ishte q\u00eb munda t\u00eb m\u00ebsoj goxha shum\u00eb prej Benit. Un\u00eb u befasova shum\u00eb nga aft\u00ebsia e Benit p\u00ebr t\u00eb b\u00ebr\u00eb vrojtime shum\u00eb t\u00eb holla rreth supozimeve q\u00eb un\u00eb vazhdimisht b\u00ebja pa qen\u00eb i vet\u00ebdijsh\u00ebm p\u00ebr to n\u00eb kritik\u00ebn letrare q\u00eb kisha shkruar. P\u00ebr shembull, ai m\u00eb vuri n\u00eb pah se prirem t\u00eb privilegjoj z\u00ebrin karshi aspektesh t\u00eb tjera t\u00eb p\u00ebrdorimit q\u00eb autori i b\u00ebn gjuh\u00ebs, pa justifikuar pse besoj q\u00eb z\u00ebri, n\u00eb nj\u00eb pasazh t\u00eb caktuar, \u00ebsht\u00eb aspekti m\u00eb me r\u00ebnd\u00ebsi i p\u00ebrdorimit t\u00eb gjuh\u00ebs n\u00eb at\u00eb pasazh sesa sintaksa, p\u00ebr shembull, ose zhanri letrar q\u00eb aludohet. Ai vuri n\u00eb pah po ashtu se un\u00eb e marr p\u00ebr t\u00eb mir\u00ebqen\u00eb se n\u00ebse nj\u00eb poem\u00eb apo roman evokon nj\u00eb gjende t\u00eb caktuar ndjenje, autori duhet ta ket\u00eb p\u00ebrjetuar dikur \u2013 ndofta vet\u00ebm kur e shkroi at\u00eb pjes\u00eb \u2013 k\u00ebt\u00eb grup ndjenjash. Kur ai m\u00eb b\u00ebri k\u00ebt\u00eb v\u00ebrejtje, un\u00eb thash, \u201cPersonazhet jan\u00eb trillime, k\u00ebshtuq\u00eb nuk mund t\u00eb ndjenj\u00eb gj\u00eb. Kush tjet\u00ebr pos autorit mund t\u00eb jet\u00eb duke ndjer\u00eb ndjenjat q\u00eb zgjohen nga tregimi?\u201d Ai pyeti, \u201cP\u00ebrse nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb e mundur q\u00eb nj\u00eb autor t\u00eb jet\u00eb mjaftuesh\u00ebm i zoti n\u00eb p\u00ebrdorimin e gjuh\u00ebs sa t\u00eb krijoj\u00eb \u00e7far\u00ebdo gjendje ndjesore n\u00eb nj\u00eb tekst?\u201d Un\u00eb thash\u00eb se nuk m\u00eb kishte vajtur nd\u00ebrmend q\u00eb autori mundet bindsh\u00ebm t\u00eb shkruaj\u00eb n\u00eb nj\u00eb m\u00ebnyr\u00eb q\u00eb zgjon nj\u00eb tog ndjenjash q\u00eb nuk i ka p\u00ebrjetuar kurr\u00eb. Beni tha se ky ishte nj\u00eb besim nga ana ime dhe ai nuk do t\u00eb p\u00ebrpiqej t\u00eb ma nd\u00ebrronte mendjen duke argumentuar, por q\u00eb sidoqofot\u00eb ishte nj\u00eb supozim p\u00ebr t\u00eb cilin duhet t\u00eb isha i vet\u00ebdijsh\u00ebm. Ai shtoi se edhe ai kishte po ato dyshime si un\u00eb, por \u00ebsht\u00eb interesante ta mbash pyetjen n\u00eb cep t\u00eb mendjes teksa lexon apo shkruan kritik\u00eb letrare. LDD: Si e strukturuat librin n\u00eb aspektin e dy k\u00ebndv\u00ebshtrimeve tuaja? A u fut\u00ebt n\u00eb bashk\u00ebbisedim? THO: Jo, ne vendos\u00ebm t\u00eb mos e strukturojm\u00eb librin si bised\u00eb midis nj\u00eb psikoanalisti dhe nj\u00eb kritiku letrar. Ne p\u00ebrdor\u00ebm \u201cne\u201d-n\u00eb rr\u00ebfenj\u00ebse p\u00ebr t\u2019i folur lexuesit. \u201cNe\u201d-ja ndryshon gjat\u00eb rrjedh\u00ebs s\u00eb librit teksa ne, t\u00eb dy, m\u00ebsuam prej nj\u00ebri-tjetrit dhe u aft\u00ebsuam t\u00eb kuptojm\u00eb n\u00eb m\u00ebnyr\u00eb m\u00eb komplekse marr\u00ebdh\u00ebnien midis psikoanaliz\u00ebs dhe kritik\u00ebs letrare. LDD: E pres me padurim ta lexoj librin. N\u00eb dy librat tuaj t\u00eb fundit, This art of psychoanalysis\u00a0dhe Rediscovering psychoanalysis, vura re nj\u00eb ndryshim t\u00eb q\u00ebndrimit tuaj teorik. Duket sikur ju po l\u00ebvizni tutje prej nj\u00eb gjuhe shpjeguese drejt nj\u00eb gjuhe m\u00eb afektive n\u00eb m\u00ebnyr\u00eb q\u00eb t\u00eb mb\u00ebrrij\u00eb pacientin. THO: Ky \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb vrojtim shum\u00eb perceptues. Nuk do t\u00eb m\u00eb kishte vajtur mendja ta shtroja ashtu, por mendoj se \u00ebsht\u00eb e v\u00ebrtet\u00eb. Si\u00e7 thash\u00eb m\u00eb her\u00ebt, e mendoj gjithnj\u00eb e m\u00eb shum\u00eb dialogun analitik si bised\u00eb t\u00eb nj\u00eb tipi q\u00eb nuk ndodh n\u00eb asnj\u00eb rrethan\u00eb tjet\u00ebr. Nuk e shoh struktur\u00ebn e dialogut midis pacientit dhe analisitit si dialog n\u00eb t\u00eb cilin analisti d\u00ebgjon dhe pastaj, pasi ka mbledhur mendimet dhe mb\u00ebrrin n\u00eb nj\u00eb t\u00eb kuptuar t\u00eb dometh\u00ebnieve t\u00eb pavet\u00ebdijshmeve t\u00eb komunikimeve t\u00eb pacientit, jep nj\u00eb interpretim. N\u00eb vend t\u00eb k\u00ebsaj, e shoh \u00e7iftin analitik sikur \u00ebnd\u00ebrrojn\u00eb bashk\u00eb. Secili ka shansin t\u00eb thot\u00eb se \u00e7\u2019beson se \u00ebsht\u00eb e v\u00ebrtet\u00eb dhe e p\u00ebrdorshme nga tjetri, brenda kushtit t\u00eb marr\u00ebdh\u00ebnies s\u00eb tyre si doktor dhe pacient. Kjo e fundit \u00ebsht\u00eb thelb\u00ebsore: analisti, nd\u00ebrkoh\u00eb q\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb i barabart\u00eb me pacientin, ka nj\u00eb rol dhe p\u00ebrgjegj\u00ebsi vendimtarisht ndryshe prej atij t\u00eb pacientit. Do t\u2019i kthehem k\u00ebsaj p\u00ebr pak. 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